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国外发友之声——治疗脱发帖汇总(本帖阿罗约的头发再生)

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发表于 2015-9-28 21:35:33 | 显示全部楼层         论坛脱发植发交流QQ群:86809880
本帖最后由 好头发翻译小组 于 2016-1-11 19:03 编辑

1.「国外发友之声第四篇」——14年之后我终于不再脱发了!
帖子地址:http://bbs.haotoufa.com/thread-124672-1-1.html
2.「国外发友之声第六篇」——奥古斯丁阿罗约的头发再生故事
帖子地址:http://bbs.haotoufa.com/thread-125024-1-1.html
3.「国外发友之声第八篇」发友用药两年成功恢复发际线
帖子地址:http://bbs.haotoufa.com/thread-125275-1-1.html
4.「国外发友之声第九篇」——发友从2014.08~2015.01的用药效果更新
帖子地址:http://bbs.haotoufa.com/thread-125461-1-1.html
5.「国外发友之声第十篇」——脱发14年,用药终于见效!
帖子地址:http://bbs.haotoufa.com/thread-125626-1-1.html
6.「国外发友之声第十二篇」——使用药物治疗三件套一年效果
帖子地址:http://bbs.haotoufa.com/thread-125881-1-1
7.「国外发友之声第十三篇」——我的治疗脱发之路,欢迎交流
帖子地址:http://bbs.haotoufa.com/thread-125975-1-1
8.「国外发友之声第十五篇」——用药一年,这效果嘎嘎滴!
帖子地址:http://bbs.haotoufa.com/thread-126227-1-1
更多国外发友用药恢复的帖子请前往主页观看:http://bbs.haotoufa.com/space-uid-68985.html




原贴地址:http://www.hairlosstalk.com/inte ... -Loss-Success-Story
ID:Agustin Araujo
主题:Agustin Araujo's Hair Loss: Success Story (奥古斯丁阿罗约的头发再生故事)



Hello everyone, my name is Agustin. My hair has been doing good with my current regimen and have decided to share before and after pics. First, I'll be listing what treatments I've been on and what each one does in a summarized manner. I have had no side effects from any treatment of any sort.
大家好,我是奥古斯丁。我的头发在目前的治疗方案下生长的很好,我决定分享一些治疗前后的照片给大家。首先,我会列出我目前在实施的治疗手段以及这些治疗方法有什么初步疗效。这些治疗方法目前并没任何副作用体现。

*Dutasteride: This is the only oral treatment I've currently been on to treat my Male Pattern Baldness. What is does is inhibit an isoenzyme called '5-alpha-reductase' so Testosertone is not converted into Dihydrotestosterone. Dihydrotestosterone (often shortened to DHT) is primarily responsible for miniaturization of the hair follicles in those who suffer from genetic baldness. I take 0.5 mg of the medication daily in the form of a capsule, since it comes in the form of capsules. I take genuine Avodart, which is branded Dutasteride. Below is a pic of three Avodart capsules on my hand, to show what they look like and give an idea of their size.
度他雄胺:这是目前治疗雄性脱发过程中我口服的唯一药品,它的作用是抑制“5-alpha还原酶”的生成,使得睾酮无法转化为双氢睾酮。双氢睾酮(简称DHT)是使得遗传脱发基因的人头发毛囊变得细软化的元凶。我每天服用一粒这个胶囊药品,每粒药品大约是5毫克。我服用的这款是正宗的度他雄胺,名字是Dutasteride。下图向大家展示一下我手里的三种度他雄胺药品。


*Ketoconazole: I am using this treatment topically in the form of a shampoo called 'Regenepure DR' and contains 1% of the ingredient. It fights and helps treat AGA related inflammation, promotes quite a clean environment for topical treatments, and also helps to keep my scalp healthy. I use it daily and have been fine with it.
酮康唑:我的一款名为Regenepure DR的洗发水中含有1%的这一药物成分。它对于治疗与雄激素性脱发有关的炎症有一定作用,而且可以使我的头皮保持清洁。我每天都用这款洗发水,感觉还不错。
*Minoxidil: I am using this treatment topically and is perhaps the most enigmatic one for baldness there is. Basically what it does is up-regulate PGE2 which aids in hair growth, suppresses androgen receptor related functions, promotes maintenance, and significantly improves the functions of hair follicles. The exact mechanism(s) on how this treatment works at stimulating hair growth is not yet fully understood to this day. I use this treatment twice daily.
米诺地尔:这是我治疗过程中用的挺神秘的一款药品。目前来看,它的作用是上调前列腺素E2(一种帮助头发生长的激素),同时能够抑制雄激素受体的相关功能,促进和保护了头发毛囊的生长。这款药物在促进头发生长方面的确切功能目前还不明朗,所以我说它比较神秘。这个药我每次用两次的样子。

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*RU58841: An experimental anti-androgen for topical use. Mainly what it does is 'protect' the hair follicles from androgen activity by keeping androgens, primarily DHT, from binding to the androgen receptors. I my self have personally found it helpful and helped reduce shedding. I use my own 10% batches that I make. It comes in the form of a white powder, and I mix it in a vehicle of 60/40 using Ethanol and Propylene Glycol. I use the treatment once daily and apply it topically to the areas affected the most. Below is a pic of the treatment after making a week's worth of the solution. As you can see, it is a clear solution.
RU58841:这是一种目前仍在实验过程中的反激素药物。它的主要作用是抑制激素,尤其是双氢睾酮与激素受体的结合以保护头发毛囊的生长。我自己使用后发现它的确使得我掉发量减少了。我自己调制使用这个药品,含药量大约为10%。这种药物是白色粉末状,我用60/40的酒精和丙二醇调剂。这个药我每天用两次,并且主要用于脱发严重的区域。下面的图片是治疗一周之后的效果,如你所见,效果还蛮明显的。


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发表于 2015-9-29 19:43:48 | 显示全部楼层         论坛脱发植发交流QQ群:86809880
RU58841 很多人用,传的比米诺还神的多,不知道真正有效几分? 停药会不会再脱发? 副作用呢?

没有通过药理,还是不敢拿自己做小白鼠。。  而且RU58841 都是中国产的

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 楼主| 发表于 2015-9-28 21:38:37 | 显示全部楼层         论坛脱发植发交流QQ群:86809880
Below are the before pics, taken on March 5th, 2015. My hair is slicked back slightly damp.
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-9-28 21:39:40 | 显示全部楼层         论坛脱发植发交流QQ群:86809880
Below are the after pics, taken on September 7th, 2015 in the exact same area, with the exact same lighting. As seen, I've had an improvement in density. Most important of all for now, maintenance.
下面是用药后的照片,拍摄于2015年9月7日,与之前拍摄的是同一个头顶区域。可以看到,头发密度有所提升。更重要的是之前未脱头发保持的很好。


That's all there really is for now, I'll just keep things updated. Thank you for taking the time to look.  
这就是目前的情况了,我也会持续更新。感谢你认真地阅读。
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-9-28 21:42:28 | 显示全部楼层         论坛脱发植发交流QQ群:86809880
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I would say that is a proper order in terms of efficacy with the treatments. Dutasteride is basically the main part of my regimen and the most important treatment. Minoxidil is secondary in my regimen, though is absolutely crucial for treating my hair loss and is a huge important necessity in my case. RU58841 is helpful which I've taken notice of, though to be honest about this treatment, it's actually been difficult for me to measure how much it's actually been helping because Dutasteride alone is so strong, I haven't been able to estimate properly how good of a maintenance treatment it would be by itself. Ketoconazole, especially if using it in the form of a shampoo, helps to provide a neatly clean environment for topical treatments along with fighting AGA related inflammation, itchiness, and can help reduce sebum production in some cases.

我认为这是治疗见效的一个正确的过程。度他雄胺是我治疗过程中最重要和最主要的一部分。米诺地尔是治疗中第二选择,尽管他对治疗我的掉发也起了至关重要的作用。RU58841 我能感觉到有帮助,但是说实话我无法得知它在治疗中到底帮助了多少,因为度他雄胺疗效就已经很强了,我没法正确的去估计它在长期使用和治疗时的效果有多好。酮康唑在治疗过程中可以让头皮变得干净并能减少一定的油脂,尤其是在拿来当洗发露用的时候,可以有效得对抗雄性脱发有关的炎症和发痒。

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 楼主| 发表于 2015-9-28 21:42:43 | 显示全部楼层         论坛脱发植发交流QQ群:86809880
Hey everyone, thanks for the comments.  

I do need to admit that having baseline pics with my hair slicked back then the progress pics with my hair forwards is not an accurate comparison. I'll be taking new progress pics and I'll have my hair slicked back just the way I did with the baseline pics. I'll keep you all updated.

Edit: New progress pics with my hair slicked back just like the baseline pics have been updated.

大家好,感谢你们的留言。
我需要承认我拿头发全部往后梳时和治疗后头发全部朝前的照片做比较并不准确。我会重新跟拍治疗过程中的照片,并也把头发全部往后梳以此来比较。我会继续更新。
编辑后:我上传了新的我将头发全部向后梳的照片,就和治疗前拍的照片一样的方式。

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 楼主| 发表于 2015-9-28 21:43:19 | 显示全部楼层         论坛脱发植发交流QQ群:86809880
   Originally Posted by Parsia  
Agustin without any doubt , You are one of the most respectful posters on the forum , I'm so happy we have a nice Guy like you here   Although the styling of your hair was not the same but its obvious you've got some result , It looks like you have more hair on your hairline , Thanks for sharing that with us.
“Parsia原帖:
毋庸置疑,Agustin,你是我论坛里最尊敬的发帖人。我很高兴这里有你这样的好人。尽管你两张照片的发型并不一样但是很明显你的治疗是有效果的。看起来你的发际线有了更多的头发,非常感谢你与我们分享。

Thank you for extending your kindness Parsia.  

Yes, I do have more hair on my hairline, and improved density. If you look at my temple points in the before and after pics, you can see I've also had thickening in those areas, which are quite difficult to achieve. Those itself show that treatments have been working well, and my hair has been feeling a lot healthier lately. My main goal is to have my frontal hair loss decently restored, I'm not too worried about my crown and mid-scalp since those two areas have made a much better recovery than the front so far.

很感谢你的好意 Parsia

是的,我的发际线的确有了更多的头发,密度整体提升了。如果你看了前后照片的太阳穴位置,你可以看到我那里的头发也变粗了,这是非常难得的。这些就足以表示这个治疗是很有笑的,而我的头发也感觉更健康了。我现在的目标是让我前面的头发适当的恢复,我并没有特别在意我的头顶和中部头发,因为按现在的结果来看那里的头发恢复的比前面的头发好多了。

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 楼主| 发表于 2015-9-28 21:43:51 | 显示全部楼层         论坛脱发植发交流QQ群:86809880
   Originally Posted by Finkle25  
Hi Agustin, great results congrats!
Was just wondering if you experienced a period of shedding when you first began Dutasteride? And have you experienced any side-effects?
Hi Agustin,恭喜你有了很好的结果
只是像知道你刚开始用度他雄胺的时候有狂脱期(一段时间的脱发)吗?另外你有没有什么副作用?

Thanks!  
谢谢

I never experienced any shedding when I first began Dutasteride. In fact, Dutasteride significantly reduced shedding, while before I started the treatment, I was losing a lot of hair. I've experienced no side effects.
我开始使用度他雄胺的时候并没有什么狂脱期。实际上,他很明显的阻止了我的脱发,在我使用之前,我一直再掉很多头发。我并没有经历什么副作用。

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 楼主| 发表于 2015-9-28 21:44:16 | 显示全部楼层         论坛脱发植发交流QQ群:86809880
   Originally Posted by CliffLee  
Agustin, congrats on your progress!

How come you use keto once a day instead of the typical 2/3 times a week?
Clifflee原帖:
Agustin,恭喜你的治疗有了进展。你怎么会每天使用酮康唑而不是一周两到三次?

Thank you CliffLee.  
谢谢你CliffLee

I use topical treatments a total of three times daily; I use 5% Minoxidil twice daily and a 10% solution of RU58841 once daily. I use a Ketoconazole shampoo everyday to help provide the cleanest environment possible for Minoxidil and RU58841 to help work to the fullest potential.
我一天一共3次进行局部治疗。我一天两次的使用5%的米诺地尔,并一天一次的使用10%的RU58841。我每天洗头用酮康唑来帮助清洁头皮,这样可以让米诺和RU58841更好的发挥疗效。

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 楼主| 发表于 2015-9-28 21:44:44 | 显示全部楼层         论坛脱发植发交流QQ群:86809880
Thank you Captain Hook.   I do look forward to getting serious regrowth since I am unhappy with my hair density. All what can be done for now is to give my hair more time.
谢谢你Captain Hook。我很期待能看到我头发的新生因为我对现在的头发密度很不开心。我现在能做的就是给我的头发更多的时间去等待效果。

Me personally, I've been finding conflicting information whether if Minoxidil increases or decreases PGE2 production. I think until it's been fully discovered by science figuring out the exact mechanism(s) to how Minoxidil helps treat hair loss, that is when we'll understand the medication and know how to use it to the fullest potential.
以我个人意见,我发现了一些矛盾的信息——米诺到底增加还是减少PGE2的产生。我觉得要等到科学家能完整得了解米诺之所以能治疗脱发的药理时,我们才能真正了解并知道怎样去使用让它可以达到最好的效果。

I've used a 2% Ketoconazole shampoo before, I found it very drying to my hair and scalp, and I used it 1-2 times a week maximum. The 2% formulations also have sulfates in them and my scalp is a bit sensitive to those ingredients. Yes, I'm aware of those studies about Ketoconazole, and that it does have anti-androgenic effects, thank you for sharing those. I prefer to stay with using the OTC 1% formulation of Ketoconazole, and I use it daily since it's just easier to remember, and it isn't very expensive either.
我之前使用过2%酮康唑的洗发露,我发现它让我的头发和头皮变得很干,因此我最多一周使用1-2次。2%的成分里含有硫化物而我的头皮对这些成分很敏感。是的,我也注意到了一些关于酮康唑的研究,它的确可以对抗雄性激素引起的效果,非常感谢你与我们分享这些。我还是偏向于继续使用1%的酮康唑,我每天都会使用,这样不容易忘记,而且它也不贵。

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发表于 2015-9-29 19:42:05 | 显示全部楼层         论坛脱发植发交流QQ群:86809880
这个老外用了半年,好像前额还是恢复不了

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 楼主| 发表于 2015-10-1 17:03:10 | 显示全部楼层         论坛脱发植发交流QQ群:86809880
自我救赎 发表于 2015-9-29 19:42
这个老外用了半年,好像前额还是恢复不了

额角和发际线确实无解啊,唯有植发可破之!

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 楼主| 发表于 2015-10-1 17:04:34 | 显示全部楼层         论坛脱发植发交流QQ群:86809880
prevail 发表于 2015-9-29 19:43
RU58841 很多人用,传的比米诺还神的多,不知道真正有效几分? 停药会不会再脱发? 副作用呢?

没有通过药 ...

你这是自学成医啊!我们翻译说实话只是搬运工,你的问题还要等高人来解答。

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发表于 2015-10-3 15:12:47 | 显示全部楼层         论坛脱发植发交流QQ群:86809880
老外吃的什么药物了?也是非那吗?

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 楼主| 发表于 2015-10-4 17:07:33 | 显示全部楼层         论坛脱发植发交流QQ群:86809880
王中王 发表于 2015-10-3 15:12
老外吃的什么药物了?也是非那吗?

有用非那,度他雄安就是的,根据最近翻译的情况来看,有一些产品国内是没有的,但美国亚马孙上是有的卖的,特别是女性用的,我们也不太清楚是什么,国内发友的选择还是少一些。

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发表于 2015-10-10 17:25:02 | 显示全部楼层         论坛脱发植发交流QQ群:86809880
好头发翻译小组 发表于 2015-10-4 17:07
有用非那,度他雄安就是的,根据最近翻译的情况来看,有一些产品国内是没有的,但美国亚马孙上是有的卖的 ...

谢谢翻译小组,我会一直关注你们的额

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发表于 2015-10-21 14:10:42 | 显示全部楼层         论坛脱发植发交流QQ群:86809880
王中王 发表于 2015-10-10 17:25
谢谢翻译小组,我会一直关注你们的额

好人多!

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发表于 2015-10-21 14:13:50 | 显示全部楼层         论坛脱发植发交流QQ群:86809880
好头发人人才济济!!

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发表于 2015-10-29 12:09:10 | 显示全部楼层         论坛脱发植发交流QQ群:86809880
老外就是好啊,药物多

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发表于 2015-10-31 19:32:16 | 显示全部楼层         论坛脱发植发交流QQ群:86809880
那个自配生发液能不能说说其原理及作用机制??这玩意网上有人卖,不过听说里面参杂了米诺,所以到底那种出了效果……不好说:


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